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== Motors == | == Motors == | ||
* NTM 28-30A 750 Kv | * RCTimer 2830-14 750 Kv 185W outrunner motor | ||
** Suggested setup: Hobby King F-30A 30A ESC Simon flashed, Gaui 500X 10-inch set, Nano-tech 4S 2200mAh, OpenPilot CC [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/] [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/page__st__160#entry95888] | |||
* NTM 28-30A 750 Kv 140W prop drive series motor | |||
** Suggested setup: Turnigy Plush 25A ESC Simon flashed, Gaui 500X 10-inch set, Nano-tech 4S 1800mAh [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/] [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/page__st__160#entry94714] | ** Suggested setup: Turnigy Plush 25A ESC Simon flashed, Gaui 500X 10-inch set, Nano-tech 4S 1800mAh [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/] [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/page__st__160#entry94714] | ||
** Suggested setup: Graupner E-Prop 10x5 set, Nano-tech 4S 3300mAh, 1420g with GoPro, 14 min flight time [http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?6582-Multirotor-Endurance-and-setup...&p=115919#post115919] | ** Suggested setup: Graupner E-Prop 10x5 set, Nano-tech 4S 3300mAh, 1420g with GoPro, 14 min flight time [http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?6582-Multirotor-Endurance-and-setup...&p=115919#post115919] | ||
* NTM 28-26A 1200 Kv | * NTM 28-26A 1200 Kv 250W prop drive series motor | ||
** Suggested setup: Turnigy Plush 30A ESC, Nano-tech 4S 3300mAh, APC 8x3.8 propellers, OpenPilot CC [http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?6492-Traveller-s-Disco-adventure] | ** Suggested setup: Turnigy Plush 30A ESC, Nano-tech 4S 3300mAh, APC 8x3.8 propellers, OpenPilot CC [http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?6492-Traveller-s-Disco-adventure] | ||
** Suggested setup: Hobby King F-30A 30A ESC Simon flashed, APC 10x4.5 propellers [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/page__st__180#entry96155] | ** Suggested setup: Hobby King F-30A 30A ESC Simon flashed, APC 10x4.5 propellers [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/page__st__180#entry96155] | ||
* DJI 2212 920 Kv brushless motor | * DJI 2212 920 Kv brushless motor | ||
** Suggested setup: DJI OPTO 30A ESC, Gaui 8-inch set [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10600-tbs-discovery-prototype-fpv-frame/page__st__140#entry85603] | ** Suggested setup: DJI OPTO 30A ESC, Gaui 8-inch set [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10600-tbs-discovery-prototype-fpv-frame/page__st__140#entry85603] | ||
** Suggested setup: Graupner E-Prop 10x5 set, DJI NAZA controller [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/page__st__80#entry82514] | ** Suggested setup: Graupner E-Prop 10x5 set, DJI NAZA controller [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/page__st__80#entry82514] | ||
* Suppo 2814/8 1000 Kv brushless motor | |||
** Suggested setup: 4S 3000mAh+1800mAh, DJI OPTO ESCs, 9x5 propellers, DJI NAZA controller [http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?5371-TBS-DISCOVERY-New-quadrocopter-frame/page45] | |||
* Tiger MT-4006-13 740 Kv motor - no punch, vibration free | * Tiger MT-4006-13 740 Kv motor - no punch, vibration free | ||
** Suggested setup: 4S battery, 11-inch propellers, DJI NAZA controller [http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?5371-TBS-DISCOVERY-New-quadrocopter-frame&p=96098&highlight=MT-4006#post96098] [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/11070-official-qav500-fpv-quad-frame-thread/page__st__200] [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/page__st__140#entry92925] | ** Suggested setup: 4S battery, 11-inch propellers, DJI NAZA controller [http://fpvlab.com/forums/showthread.php?5371-TBS-DISCOVERY-New-quadrocopter-frame&p=96098&highlight=MT-4006#post96098] [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/11070-official-qav500-fpv-quad-frame-thread/page__st__200] [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10613-tbs-discovery-beta-build-log/page__st__140#entry92925] | ||
* Graupner Compact 300 9.6V - expensive | * Graupner Compact 300 9.6V - expensive | ||
** Suggested setup: Graupner ESC 18-SC, DJI NAZA controller, Nano-tech 4S 3300mAh [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10600-tbs-discovery-prototype-fpv-frame/page__st__80] | ** Suggested setup: Graupner ESC 18-SC, DJI NAZA controller, Nano-tech 4S 3300mAh [http://forums.openpilot.org/topic/10600-tbs-discovery-prototype-fpv-frame/page__st__80] | ||
== Accessories == | == Accessories == |
Revision as of 22:16, 9 July 2012
The Team BlackSheep (TBS) Discovery is a purpose made FPV platform based on the DJI Flame Wheel F450 frame base. It has a asymmetric structure, incorporates traces on the central structure plates to minimize wiring, has space for both a flight camera and HD recording camera (GoPro) in the front and a protective cage for a high capacity LiPo battery in the back.
Researched only
Specifications
- Released: November 2011
- Type: Spider quadrotor
- Airframe: Caron fiber reinforced
- Diameter: 450 mm - Flame Wheel, Discovery is a bit wider
- Height: xx mm
- Weight: 460 grams [1]
- Takeoff weight: 800 grams to 1600 grams
- Propellers: 10 × 4.5 in or 8 × 4.5 in
- Battery: 3S-4S LiPo
- Motor: 22×12 mm or 22×15 mm
- ESC: 30A switched
- Recommended flying area: 25x25 meters
- Product pages:
- DJI Hobby - Flame Wheel kits and NAZA flight control
- Team BlackSheep - TBS Discovery FPV specific base
Frame kit
The quad is build using separate base frame and electronics. In other words, it is a purpose built kit. It is built on DJI Flame Wheel base.
- 1x DJI F450 Flame Wheel arms black and white - from any DJI vendor
- 1x TBS Discovery top and bottom plate including screws and damping tape - from TBS
- 1x TBS CORE video power distribution and OSD - from TBS
- 1x TBS 100A current sensor - from TBS
- 1x TBS RF Tin Shield for TBS CORE - from TBS
My setup
Base setup
This is the basis for the quad and makes for a perfect platform to start testing equipment.
- Motor: RCTimer 2830-14 750 Kv outrunner motor with 5.0 mm collet adaptor for 3.17 mm shaft [2]
- Propellers: Graupner E-Prop 10x5 inch propeller set [3]
- Alternate propellers: Gaui G-222800 10-inch propeller set (2 norm, 2 rev for GAUI 500X quad) [4]
- ESC (4x): Hobby King F-30A Brushless Programmable ESC with bare leads - reprogrammed with RapidESC firmware
- Alternate ESC: RCTimer 30A Brushless Programmable ESC with bare leads - reprogrammed with RapidESC firmware, internal oscillator (not optimal)
- Flight Controller: DJI NAZA-M flight controller
- Receiver: FrSky D6FR 2.4 GHz ACCST 6 channel two-way receiver
- Transmitter: Spektrum DX7 radio with FrSky DHT 2.4 GHz 60mW transmitter
- Battery: Turnigy nano-tech 3300mah 35~70C 4SP1 14.8V Lithium-ion Polymer xx grams battery
Upgraded setup
- Motor: RCTimer 2830-14 750 Kv outrunner motor [5]
- Receiver: ImmersionRC EzUHF Lite 8 channel 433 MHz receiver with Sander Style UHF antennas
- Transmitter: Spektrum DX7 radio with ImmersionRC EzUHF 433 MHz transmitter
- Flight Controller: OpenPilot CopterControl flight control - limited availability
Motors
- RCTimer 2830-14 750 Kv 185W outrunner motor
- NTM 28-30A 750 Kv 140W prop drive series motor
- NTM 28-26A 1200 Kv 250W prop drive series motor
- DJI 2212 920 Kv brushless motor
- Suppo 2814/8 1000 Kv brushless motor
- Suggested setup: 4S 3000mAh+1800mAh, DJI OPTO ESCs, 9x5 propellers, DJI NAZA controller [15]
- Tiger MT-4006-13 740 Kv motor - no punch, vibration free
- Graupner Compact 300 9.6V - expensive
- Suggested setup: Graupner ESC 18-SC, DJI NAZA controller, Nano-tech 4S 3300mAh [19]
Accessories
- USBasp AVR Programming Device for Atmel controllers - Hobby King
- 3M Double-sided tape pack - Hobby King
Tips and tricks
- To get rid of vibrationse, use only good quality propellers, e.g. Graupner [20] [21]
- For longer flight times, use low Kv motors and large propellers but watch the power usage
- To avoid propellers in the GoPro view, use Wide setting for 8-inch propellers and Medium for 10-inch propellers
- A 25A ESC is more than enough for this frame, max. 60A full throttle for all four controllers equals 15A per ESC, 10A margin [22]
Build logs
- Juz' OpenPilot build log
- Enthlapy's OpenPilot build log
- meme's build log
- Rensen's DJI Build Log
- Traveller's Disco build adventure
Tools
- eCalc - find the optimal propeller+motor combination
Shops
- goodluckbuy.com - Got DJI equipment and a lot of other accessories
- servocity.com - Pan and tilt systems
- hobbyking.com - Motors, ESCs, batteries and a lot more
- teamblack-sheep.com - Home of TBS Zephyr I & II, Discovery, CORE
- rctimer.com - Lots of motors, ESCs and clone Flame wheel
- [23] - Source for DJI frames in the USA
Video
This is the official Team BlackSheep video of the final production frame.