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* Pick a suitable motor+battery combination, simple rule: motor weight / 0.025 = battery capacity+-100 mAh, battery capcity * 0.025 = motor weight+-5g | * Pick a suitable motor+battery combination, simple rule: motor weight / 0.025 = battery capacity+-100 mAh, battery capcity * 0.025 = motor weight+-5g | ||
* Center of gravity point is 190 to 212 mm from the front of the nose, depending on battery and total weight, aim for 212 mm [http://fwcg.3dzone.dk/?wing_span=151&root_chord=36.75&tip_chord=19&sweep_type=0&sweep=48.25&cg_pos=25&show_mac_lines=0] | * Center of gravity point is 190 to 212 mm from the front of the nose, depending on battery and total weight, aim for 212 mm [http://fwcg.3dzone.dk/?wing_span=151&root_chord=36.75&tip_chord=19&sweep_type=0&sweep=48.25&cg_pos=25&show_mac_lines=0] | ||
* Program the travel range of the elevator to be 15 mm up and down, and the aileron to be 10 mm up and down from default position | |||
* To ease the sensitivity of the elevons, try 40% elevator expo and 80% aileron expo | * To ease the sensitivity of the elevons, try 40% elevator expo and 80% aileron expo | ||
Revision as of 23:22, 14 February 2012
The Tek Sumo is a flying wing with an impressive range of flying characteristics.
Similar models
- Techone Popwing 35-inch [1] 2DogRC vendor - RCGroups review
- Alexandre Lopes Tek Sumo scrath build [2]
Specifications
- Released: Fall 2011
- Type: Powered medium sized flying wing
- Airframe: Rough EPP (Expanded Polypropylene) foam
- Wingspan 900 mm - 920 mm (measured)
- Wing area: 0.252 m^2 / 252 mm^2 / 390.6 in^2
- Length: 575 mm - 570 mm (measured)
- Root chord: 290 mm (excl. elevons) - 345 mm (incl. elevons) [3]
- Tip chord: 205 mm (excl. elevons) - 270 mm (incl. elevons)
- Sweep: 315 mm (front to tip difference)
- Center of gravity: 200-212 mm (instructions), range 190-212 mm, from leading edge/tip - aim for 212 mm [4]
- Stock weight: 230 grams (wings, winglets, motor mount, servo mount, push rods, linkage, carbon fiber rods, front padding)
- Elevon travel range (radio programmable):
- Elevator: +-15 mm
- Aileron: +-10 mm
- Payload capacity: 100-250 grams (at least, CoG and power setup dependant)
- Reinforcement: Black carbon fiber spars, two 2x530 mm wing spars, three 2x160 mm cross spars, two 3x320 mm elevon spars
- Recommended flying area: 250x250 meters [5]
- Product page: HobbyKing Tek Sumo
Manual
- Manual for Tek Sumo - Official manual
Stock kit
- 1x Tek Sumo 2 wing halves
- 2x Pre-glued carbon fiber rods 2 mm on wings top and bottom
- 2x Pre-glued carbon fiber rods 3 mm on elevons bottom
- 2x Winglets
- 1x Front EPP padding block
- 2x Push rods 1 x 200 mm
- 2x Glassfiber control arm 21 mm
- 2x Linkage stopper 1.5 x 6 mm
- 4x Equipment bay plastic bands 250 mm
- 3x Carbon fiber rods 2 x 160 mm
- 1x Plywood motor mount 38 x 38 mm backplate 23 x 23 mm pattern
- 2x Plywood servo mount 23 x 12 mm
- 1x Plywood velcro battery mount 71.5 x 25 mm
- 1x Fiberglass reinforced tape 15 mm
- 1x Instruction manual 4 pages
My setup
This is the current setup as of 2012-02-08:
- Motor: RCTimer BC2826-10 1400 Kv outrunner motor
- Motor: RCTimer BC2826-6 2200 Kv outrunner motor
- Propeller: APC 7x4E propeller with 5.0 mm collet adaptor for 3.17 mm shaft
- Propeller: APC 8x4E propeller with 5.0 mm collet adaptor for 3.17 mm shaft
- Propeller: APC 6x4E propeller with 5.0 mm collet adaptor for 3.17 mm shaft
- ESC: RCTimer 30A Brushless Programmable ESC with T-type Deans and bullet connectors
- Servos: HexTronik HXT900 Blue 9 gram digital servos
- Receiver: Corona CR8D 2.4 GHz V2 DSSS 8 channel receiver
- Transmitter: Spektrum DX7 DSM 7 channel radio with Corona CT8Z 2.4 GHz V2 DSSS transmitter
- Battery: Moxie 2200 mAh 3SP1 11.1V Lithium-ion Polymer battery
Tips and tricks
- To glue the wing halves together and motor mount, use PU (Polyurethane) glue, e.g. Gorilla Glue, activate with water and keep pressed together using tape
- For attaching the winglets use hot glue in the main contact surfaces and silicone glue (GOOP) around the bead [6] [7]
- Add optional extra 2 mm x 340 mm carbon fiber rods to the underside near the center of gravity point and also to the wings as spars for strength, use thick super glue and kicker
- Use servo cable extensions to reach the servos from the equipment bay
- Calculate the motor and propeller size for the desired air speed, flight time and efficiency, use eCalc
- Add fiber glass reinforced tape on the leading wing edge for dent resistance on crashes
- Make incisions to remove the floor in the equipment bays, make it even thinner and use PU glue+tape to re-attach the floor on the opposite side
- Put the equipments on the top side using the tip above to move the floors
- Relocate the servo holes to be perpendicular to the forward motion direction of the wing, position the servos horizontal (not vertical), double-sided adhesive pad+tape or hot glue, less drag [8]
- Use glass fiber reinforced tape to cover servo wire trails
- Cut a hallow 2 mm carbon fiber tube to fit over the push rod to minimize flexing
- On the tip of the elevons, cut off the corner to avoid the obstruction with the winglet
- Detach the elevons using a razor blade and reattach using strong 3M Mailing and Storage tape for optimal frictionless motion
- Reinforce the front tip of the wing by inserting two 3 mm x 110 mm carbon fiber rods into the foam from each side, pre-fit and use PU glue
- Scorpion, Hacker, Cobra are all reported to be very good motors if you want better quality [9]
- Fine tune the CoG (center of gravity) using the battery and motor as weights
- Pick a suitable motor+battery combination, simple rule: motor weight / 0.025 = battery capacity+-100 mAh, battery capcity * 0.025 = motor weight+-5g
- Center of gravity point is 190 to 212 mm from the front of the nose, depending on battery and total weight, aim for 212 mm [10]
- Program the travel range of the elevator to be 15 mm up and down, and the aileron to be 10 mm up and down from default position
- To ease the sensitivity of the elevons, try 40% elevator expo and 80% aileron expo
Motor alternatives
Scorpion, Hacker, Cobra offer quality motors, but the priority here is low cost.
- HK2824-1300 HobbyKing 2824 1300Kv Brushless Outrunner 52g [11]
- L2205-1350 Turnigy L2205-1350 1350Kv Brushless Motor 30g, pair with 1300 mAh [12]
- RCTimer BC2826-10 1400KV Outrunner Brushless Motor, 50g [13]
- D2822/14 Brushless Outrunner 1450kv 38g, pair with 1500 mAh [14] [15]
- Tower Pro 2409-12t 1600kv 63g, heavy [16] [17]
- RCTimer A2208-12 1800KV Outrunner Brushless Motor 38g, pair with 1800 mAh [18]
- RCTimer BC2826-6 2200KV Outrunner Brushless Motor 50g, pair with 2200 mAh [19] [20]
- Turnigy NTM Prop Drive Series 35-30A 1400kv Brushless Outrunner [21]
- Turnigy 2836 Brushless EDF Motor 3200kv 72g [22]
Setups
Optimal power train around 200-300W [23].
Guides
- 3DZone Center of Gravity guide
- Web-o-Calc propeller recommendation
- eCalc for propeller airplanes
- Propeller rule [24]:
- Bigger prop - lower Kv motor, less amps, more thrust/climb
- Smaller prop - higher Kv motor, more amps, less thrust/climb, more pitch speed
Common setups
- Docile/easy: Motor 1350 Kv D28xL19mm 40g, APC 7x4, 3S 1000mAh 83g [25]
- Cruising/easy: Motor 1450 Kv D28xL22mm 38g, APC 8x6, 3S 2200 mAh 170g [26]
- Cruising/FPV: Motor 1800 Kv D28xL22mm 38g, APC 7x4, 3S 1800 mAh 153g, 15-20 min flight [27]
- Cruising/FPV: Motor 1400 Kv D28xL26mm) 50g, APC 8x4, 3S 1500 mAh 138g, 15-20 min flight [28]
- Performance/long: Motor 1600 Kv D31xL31mm 63g, APC 7x6/8x4, 3S 2200 mAh 138g [29]
- Performance/speed: Motor 2200 Kv D28xL26mm 50g, APC 6x4, 3S 1500 mAh 138g, 10 min flight [30]
- Ultra/long: Motor 1400 Kv D35xL32mm 88g, APC 8x8, 2x 3S 2200 mAh 340g, 18-25 min flight [31]
- Ultra/fast: Motor 3200 Kv D28xL38m) 72g, APC 7x6, 3S 2200 mAh 170g [32]
Propellers
Common propeller sizes:
- 6x4, 7x3, 7x5, 7x6, 8x4, 8x8
Other equipment
Flying weight
- 350 grams - setup 2208 1370 Kv, 20A ESC, 3S 1200 mAh, 6x5 [36]
- 489 grams - setup 2818 1350 Kv, 18A ESC, 3S 1800 mAh, 7x4 [37]
Build guides
- Flitetest Tek Sumo and Bonsai review
- bluegsxr6 Tek Sumo setup
- PaulT Tek Sumo build
- yarg Tek Sumo configuration suggestions
- octane81 Tek Sumo build [38]
- FPV Tek Sumo high speed mountain flyer [39]
- planex Tek Sumo setup
- FPV Sweden Tek Sumo build log
- XJet Tek Sumo RC plane of the week
- Rellik Demanon Tek Sumo setup
- beemerdon homemade balancing stand
- Joey6 Tek Sumo build and repair
- Tek Sumo and Zephyr compared